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what did you learn? >> you hate america and you hate "star wars" and barry manilow. >> that's what i learned too. donny likes glow sticks. >> donny likes a lot of things. >> and the dream. >> way too early. what time is it? >> time for "morning joe." i'm time for chuck todd and "the daily rundown." >> a little uncomfortable. it's john brennan's turn on capitol hill. what will the nominee say? the policies for killing al qaeda operatives who are american citizens and the overall use of drone strikes in other countries. by the way, when is the senate going to vote on chuck hagel's nomination. delay is rarely a good thing. biden rallies house democrats
and we will talk to one member who is part of that bunch leading the charge. 48 hours after joking about his weight with letterman, chris christie gets serious and tough when asked about what a former white house doctor had to say about him. there is something going on that has a lot to do with 2016. it's thursday, february seventh, 2013. it's t"the daily rundown." let's get to the first reads of the morning. you may be breaking off to hear from president obama at the prayer breakfast. let's start with the first read. after years of secrecy, president obama ordered the justice department to release a classified memo detailing the legal justification for killing americans considered terrorists to two congressional committees. they will do so on a classified basis. the disclosure to congress happened on the eve of this afternoon's confirmation hearing for john brennan, the president's choice to be the
next director of the cia. press secretary jay carney refused to acknowledge that the memo existed. he prepared for the senate intelligence and he refused to commit saying any decision would require interagent consultation. after nbc commented on the white paper that summarized the legal arguments and hoping to nip any congressional sustained criticism in the bud and delay brennan's confirmation, the president made the decision to have it be shown to members of the congress. he called the senator who has a one-man oversight, biden threatened to pull out the stops to get the memo and called the disclosure an important first step and said the heavy lifting of the process begins. >> every american has the right
to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. i don't think that as one person said, that is too much to ask. this idea that security and liberty are mutually exclusive and you can have or the other is something i reject. >> critics accused the president of hypocrisy of classified memos on interrogation in 2009. refusing and keeping the legal opinions secret. yesterday the white house justified the lack of transparency to pointing to speeches by officials on drone strikes over the past year into these comments. the president himself made on the daily show in october. >> one of the things we have to do is put a legal architecture in place and we need congressional help to do that to make sure not only am i raeigne in, but any president is reigned
in. >> civil libertarian advocates say the white house move is not enough and the memo should be released to the general public. >> if the administration will be claiming the authority to kill american citizens, it has an obligation to explain and defend the claim to the public. >> the president has an unusual degree and republicans are lining up behind the president. from michael rogers. >> this is a time-honored tradition the legal basis goes back many, many years when u.s. citizens would go and fight for foreign nations. if you join the enemy overseas, we will fight the enemy. >> we will take a little bit of a pause here. this is an annual tradition. the president is speaking at a national prayer breakfast. we want to take you and hear his comments live. >> to the heads of state and members of congress and my
cabinet, religious leaders, distinguished guests and to our outstanding speaker. to all the faithful who journeyed to our capital, michelle and i are honored to be with you this morning. before i begin, i hope people don't mind me taking a moment of personal privilege. i want to say a quick word about a close friend of mine and yours. joshua dubois. he has been at my side for work and prayer for years now. he is a young reverend, but wise in years. he worked on my staff and done outstanding job as the head of our faith-based office. every morning he sends me via
e-mail a daily meditation. a snippet of scripture for me to reflect on. it has meant the world to me, despite my pleas, tomorrow will be his last day in the white house. i want to publicly thank joshua for all he has done and i know everybody joins me in wishing him all the best in his future endeavors, including getting married. >> it says something about us as a people for 61 years now that this great prayerful tradition has endured. it says something about us that every year in times of triumph and tragedy, in calm and in crisis, we come together not as
democrats or republicans, but as brothers and sisters. as children of god. every year in the midst of our busy and noisy lives, we set aside one morning together as one community. united in prayer. we do so because we are a nation ever humbled by our history. and we are ever a at the present timive to our imperfects, particularly of our president. we come together because we are a people of faith. we know that faith is something that must be cultivated. faith is not a possession. faith is a process. i was struck by a passage that was read earlier from the book
of hebrews. without faith it is impossible to please god. because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and he rewards those who diligently seek him. he awards those who diligently seek him. not for one moment or one day, but for every moment. every day. as christians we place our faith in the nail-scarred hands of jesus christ. but so many other americans also know the close embrace of faith. muslims and jews, hindus and sikhs and all americans whether religious or secular have a deep abiding faith in the nation. recently i had occasion to reflect on the power of faith.
a few weeks ago in the inauguration i was blessed to place my hand on the bibles of two great americans. two men whose faiths echoes today. one was the bible owned by president abraham lincoln. the other the bible owned by dr. martin luther king,jr. as i prepared to take the sacred oath, i thought about these two men. i thought of how in times of joy and pain and uncertainty, they turned their bibles to seek the wisdom of god's word. and thought of how for as long as we have been a nation, so many of our leaders and our presidents and preachers and legislators and jurists have done the same. each one faced their challenges and fining in scripture their own lessons from the lord. as i was looking out on the
crowd i thought of dr. king. we often think of him standing tall in front of the crowd and stirring the nation's conscious with a bellowing voice and a mighty drain. i also thought of his doubts and fears. for those moments came as well. the lonely moments when he was left to confront the presence of long-festering injustice and undisguised hate. he imagined the darkness and the doubt that must have surrounded him in that birmingham jail. and the anger that surely rose up in him. the night his house was bombed with his wife and child inside. and the grieve that shook him as he eulogized those four precious girls take friend this earth as they gathered in a house of god.
and i was reminded that yes, dr. king was a man of audacious hope and relentless optimism, but he was also a man occasionally brought to his knees in fear and in doubt and in helplessness. in those moments we know that he retreated alone to a quiet space so he could reflect and pray and grow his faith. i imagine he turned to certain verses we now read. i imagine him reflecting on isaiah that we wait upon the lord. the lord shall renew those who wait. they shall mount up and they shall run and not be wary and shall walk and not faint.
we know that in scripture, dr. king found strength. in the bible he found conviction. in the words of god he found a truth about the dignity of man that once realized he once relinquished. we know lincoln had such moments as well. to see this country torn apart, to see his fellow citizens waging a ferocious war that pitted brother against brother, family against family, that was as heavy of a burden as any president will have to bear. he visited with troops and honored the dead day after day, week after week. you can see in the lines of his face the toll the war cost him.
but he did not break. even as he buried a beloved son he did not break and as he struggled to overcome melancholy, despair, and grief, he did not break. he surely found solace in scripture. he could acknowledge his own doubts and he was humbled in the face of the lord. that i think allowed him to be a better leader. it's what allowed him in what may be one of the greatest speeches ever written in a second inaugural to describe the union and confederate soldier, both reading the sable bible and prayed to the same god, but the prayers of both could not be answered. that of neither has been answered fully. the almighty has his own
purposes. and in lincoln's eyes, the power of faith was humbling. allowing us to embrace our limits in knowing god's will as a consequence that he was able to see god in those who vehemently opposed him. today the divisions in this country are thankfully not as deep or destructive as when lincoln led, but they are real. the differences in how we hope to move our nation forward are less pronounced than when king marched, but they do exist. as we debate what is right and what is just and what is the surest way to create a more hopeful for our children and how we reduce the deficit and what tax plans we will have, how we are going make sure that every child is getting a great education and doctorate is
encouraging to me that you turn out well by mom not letting you watch tv. i will tell my daughter that is when they complain. in the midst of all these debates, we must keep that same humility that dr. king and washington and all our great leaders understood at the core of true leadership. in a democracy as big and diverse as ours, we will encounter every opinion. our task as citizens whether we are leaders in government or business or spreading the word, to suspend our days with open hearts and open minds. to seek out the truth that exists in an opposing view and
find the common ground that allows for us as a nation and a people to take real and meaningful action. we have to do that humbly for no one can know the full and encompassing mind of god and we have to do it every day and not just as a prayer breakfast. this is now our fifth prayer breakfast and it is always a wonderful event. i do worry sometimes that as soon as we leave the prayer breakfast, everything we have been talking about the whole time seems to be forgotten. on the same day of the prayer breakfast. you would like to think the shelf life wasn't so short. i go back to the oval office and i start watching the cable news networks and it's like we didn't
pray. so my hope is that humility, that carries over every day. every moment. while god may reveal his plan to us in portions, the expanse of his plan is for god and god alone to understand. now we see through a glass and face-to-face, now i know in part and then shall i know even as also i am known. until that moment, until we know and are fully known, all we can
do is live our lives in a godly way. and assume that those we deal with every day, including those in the opposing party, they are groping their way, doing their best. going through the same struggles we are going through. in that pursuit, we are blessed with guidance and god said the commandments are there to be followed and jesus is there to guide us and the holy spirit to help us. love the lord god with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. love your neighbor as yourself and see in everyone, even in those with whom you disagree most vehemently the face of god
for we are all his children. that's what i thought of as i took the oath of office a few weeks ago and touched those bibles. the comfort that scripture gave lincoln and so many leaders throughout our history. the verses they cherish and how those words of got are there for us as well. waiting to be read any day we choose. i thought about how their faith gave them the strength to meet challenges of their time as our faith can give us strength to meet the challenges of ours. most of all, i thought about their humility. how we don't seem to live that out the way we should. every day even when we give lip service.
as president sometimes i have to search for the words to console the inconsolable. sometimes i search scripture to determine how best to balance life as a president and as a husband and as a father. i often search for scripture to figure out how i can be a better man as well as a better president. i believe that we are united in these struggles. but i also believe we are united in the knowledge of a redeeming savior whose grace is sufficient for the multitude of our sins and love has never failed. and most of all i know that all americans and men and women of different faiths and those of no faith that they can name are
nevertheless joined together in common purpose. believing in something that is bigger than ourselves and the ideals that lie at the heart of our nation's founder. that has a people we are bound together. so this morning let us summon the common resolve that comes from our faith and pray to god we may be worthy of the many blessings he bestowed upon our nation. let us retain that humility not just during this hour, but for every hour. let me suggest that those of us with the most power and influence need to be the most humble. let us promise him and to each other every day as the sunrises over america that it will rise over a people who are striving
to make this a more perfect union. thank you. god bless you and god bless the united states of america. >> you heart the president, the fifth time he has done a national prayer breakfast, an annual event here in washington, d.c. and not without the predictable dig at the tone of washington. he talked about that how many time he has done it and talked about how they have open hearts and minds and literally forgotten hours later and took a dig at cable networks, but the president acknowledged he was watching the cable news. sometimes he claim he doesn't and sometimes claims he does. there it is. let's go back to the big news here in washington and the documents. having to do with the legal justification that the administration uses in targeting american suspects and the white
house's decision to declassify the existence of the memo and actually brief members of congress on it. the story was broken on the white paper of the memos that led to the release today. >> you were discussing the way issues get declassified in washington, usually there is an order to the process and instead the president appears to become the declassifier and classify the existence. we will not see them. we have that, but the second branch of government will be informed. >> the president has ultimate declassification authority. he can that do that any way he pleases. there ought to be a process, but when it's the process, there is no process at all. a couple of things. as we speak, there is something on capitol hill where the justice department officials have copies of the memo.
members of the intelligence committees can as we speak go in and read them. >> they're can't make copies. >> they're can't make copies or take them out. >> can they take notes? >> i don't believe so. they can read them. when brennan comes, we can get no questions based on the memo because the memo itself is still classified. they can't refer to anything that is in the memo. all that they can refer to is in the white paper. this is a small step towards disclosure. very small. >> the bigger issue today is we are going to get -- the idea that brennan will be confirmed. we are going to get perhaps the fullest briefing the public has gotten on america's drone program. there is going to be a lot of questions and when to use drones
at all. >> those are questions used by the white paper and it will be interesting to see how he handled this f. we get the speech, this was the first to serve publicly referenced drones. they would not say it even though it was the biggest unkept secret. he never said the cia was firing the drones. >> we know that is the case. leon panetta over the weekend. >> so the point is, how he is going to thread the needle of what he can say and what he is not will be interesting. >> that's okay. you are a busy reporter. these sorts are calling. a busy day for you. democrats and republicans on the hill are working on gun control policy. what can get through congress? that's next. trivia question, eight african-americans will have served in the senate. how many were elected to the
many of you have scars on your back like i do from having attempted to act and continuing to try to act and deal with the senselessness of gun violence in america. >> that was vice president biden at the house democrat retreat pushing his party to fight on the issue of gun control. it shows overwhelming support for the idea of a background check for all gun buyers. 92% support for that. but the political will to get it done. here is democrat caroline maloney. nice to see you here. >> nice to be here. >> we have a couple of other
polls to show you. 92% support. stricter laws, 52% and 43%. assault weapons ban, 56-39. the high capacity magazine ban just over 50%. you can see how these bills are splitting up. one where there seems to be near universal support for universal background checks. can any of the other bills get through congress? >> i think they can and we just introduced a ban trafficking and guns. can you believe it's not even a felony? >> this is where it has bipartisan support with elijah cummings and others. >> we will continue the effort, not only a political problem to make streets and schools and citizens safer, it's an ethical challenge and public safety and health challenge and we need to pass these bills. i was at the prayer breakfast
earlier and believe all those religious leaders should go back to their homes and across the country and urge people to cosponsor their congress members and senators to cosponsor the common sense, sensible bills that don't in any way affect the rights of individuals to lawfully own their own guns. it doesn't affect the second amendment. >> you have been in congress and have been around the block and know how it works. is it going to take the senate passing first before the house? >> we have a democratic majority in the senate so that is the strategy, but that doesn't stop like-minded democrats and republicans to work together to make this happen. i feel the bills are not only important, but can have a healing effect of bringing using to o common ground to pass something that the american public clearly wants. you gave the statistics. i think that the sandy hook
massacre was a wake up call. people want objection and want to be safer. >> do you think the biggest divide in congress and not democrat and republican, but urban and rural? when it comes to these issues. >> no,i don't. i think it's more democratic. we have an nra number join our bill who hunts in rural virginia. i think it's more democrat and republican divide than rural or not. most people in urban areas where there is no gun violence are solidly behind. >> you see the split. if the senate can't get the bans through, we won't see this vote in the house. >> i would agree with you there. you could see a vote or making a trafficking and guns a felony. you could see a vote on increasing the penalties for straw purchasers and drugs and kingpins of assault weapons and
kang gangs. you could see background checks. eric kantor came out with statements and i see those two having bipartisan support and the background check and making trafficking and guns a felony. every nra member would be for the two bills. we are not going after any second amendment rights for law-abiding gun owners. >> i suspect on tuesday, we will see how much the president talks about it. >> i think he will. >> thanks for coming in. >> you will hear from the president today. >> we will hear from tom udahl who pushed the president to reveal the classified justification for drone strikes. let's look at the politics planner for the day. the president after he does this heads over to leesburg, virginia
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[ shouting ] oh i'm sorry guys. ah sometimes the caps lock gets stuck on my keyboard. hey do you wanna get a drink later? [ male announcer ] hold packages at any fedex office location. the obama administration's decision to give congress previously classified counter terrorism documents followed days of pressure from lawmakers demanding more transparency. john brennan himself called for clarity in a speech in 2009. >> i have been deeply troubled by the inflammatory rhetoric and hyperbole that is often characterizing the debate over the security policies. particularly those relating to the fight against terrorists. as we move ahead, the president feels strongly we maintain a robust dialogue with the american people, indeed with the world about the full range of
efforts to prevent terrorist attacks. >> the new mexico senator tom udahl is one of seven senators that signed a letter that led to the classified legal opinions release. he joins me now. senator, good morning to you. >> good morning. good to be with you this morning. >> apologies. we are late. the president was late in his speech at the prayer breakfast. let me start with the administration's decision. is this a no? >> i think this is encouraging to release the documents to the committees. i want to be sure that i am going to be able to see them and any senator is going to be able to see them. you? you are not on the intelligence committee. are they going to release these to any member who wants to see them? >> at this point i think they are trying to restrict it and i think all of them are pushing back and we will get to see them.
>> the surprising thing to me on this entire issue has been how few members of congress have wanted a role in this oversight or at least publicly expressed this, is it a minority view or are there members who do want to have more oversight over the drone program in general let alone this decision about legal opinions of when to go after an american citizen. are there more member who is want this and not speaking up? >> i than we circulated this letter in the senate. three republicans are on it. if you have an interest in this issue, you sign a letter. at least 11 of us stepped forward. >> 89 had a shot at the letter and decided not to. >> we recognize the intelligence committees also play their roll and many times they don't sign
the letters. we are talking here, but most intelligence members, i think there were only three on this particular letter. i would like to just talk about what's at stake here. this is about fundamental values. you are talking about a president, any president having the ability to exercise his national security power to protect the country. in this case an extraordinary power to kill an american citizen and the other value is due process. we care a lot about due process. we care a lot about our liberty and the constitution and chuck, we know if we take away an american life in this process, you can't bring it back. this is a fundamental debate that needs to cure. it's oversight. i applaud you for weighing in on this and trying to get a discussion. i think the president and i think the american people know this is a discussion we need to
have. >> let's talk about the framework here. you know the biggest defense of the president has come from lindsay graham. you can't have 535 referring to members of congress, 535 commanders in chief and you can't have judges deciding who gets kill and when a drone strike happens. i have been surprised that there is not even after action oversight meaning i understand that there is this -- you have to let the president protect and make these decisions, but should well be a provision that makes the president and administration depend every single one of the drone strikes after it happens? >> i think that would make a lot of sense. i'm not on the intelligence committee. i don't know how much that happens. when the american citizen was killed who was a new mexico can
and born in new mexico, i demanded the legal opinions at that time and i pursued that. it's important there be the oversight that congress play a role. we are not trying to call the shots and try to be commanders in chief. what we are trying to do is find out what the legal framework is and what the limits are. to make sure that under any president this is done with the utmost care. >> i have to leave it there. democratic senator from new mexico. as you said yourself, you have been on this. it took a couple of years, but they finally have been. thanks for coming on. chris cristy and marco rubio are trying to jump 2016 hurdles. we will talk about them with the gaggle. first, soup of the day is chipotle beef. i want to brag how well a
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he's going to die in office. my 12-year-old said dad, are you going to die? she should shut up. >> let's bring in the thursday gaggle. the washington, d.c. editor. a contributor to cnbc's kudlow report. that was more than just a title. >> i want to start with you. what's interesting about what he has been doing is he decided to go on letterman to confront that letterman likes to have with him, but he changed his tone. now he talks about trying to lose weight. he doesn't do the none of your business. he attacked the doctor for the diagnosis, we said he was struggling. >> they said that chris cristy is a realist. he is looking to the future and maybe looking at a 2016 run. he has to address the questions. he can claim it is part of
superficial politics. >> that is amazing. if it was six months ago, he would say it's none of your business. stop. who cares? he has changed his tone. >> we had a lot of male politicians who struggled with their weight such as haley barber. you can see if he was planning to run when he was losing weight. mike huckabee put on the pounds he lost since he is no longer seeking national office. >> taft is not one of the candidates. >> taft 2016. people appreciate the authenticity whether he is screaming on you tube. >> that is actually -- every successful politician when they get the presidency, they find a
way to connect to the average guy and gal. struggling with weight loss is as american as anything. >> absolutely. you have to prove you are in on the joke. the one thing americans don't need is to be removed and stiff about things. he would make fun of the syntax and vocabulary. that let people know i don't take people too seriously. >> speaking of 2016, rubio, was there a more obvious choice? you need a rising star. that was not a white guy. >> not only was it smart, but leading the charge and doing it in english and spanish. that is recognizing the demographic problem. >> stylistic. everything they are trying to do is stylistic, but they needed to start somewhere. >> absolutely. we saw at the convention a lot of faces up on the stage that didn't look like the crowd in the audience. the party is is going to be
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college students. >> actually shameless and plug something i wrote. i have a story today on the atlantic.com about the history of the gun control movement and whether they can get it done this time. >> very nice. >> and me, too, i have a piece on the root.com for the internet innovation alliance about broadband and the future of minorities. very nice. remember, the entire university of chicago panel i moderated this week is on the daily rundown website. go see it. we'll be right back here tomorrow. coming up next, chris jansing. bye-bye. and i have diabetic nerve pain. i worked a patrol unit for 17 years in the city of baltimore. when i first started experiencing the pain, it's hard to describe because you have a numbness but yet you have the pain like thousands of needles sticking in your foot. it was progressively getting worse, and at that point, i knew i had to do something. when i went back to my health care professional, that's when she suggested the lyrica. once i started taking the lyrica, the pain started subsiding. [ male announcer ] it's known that diabetes damages nerves.
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good morning. i'm chris jansing. a major reversal for the obama administration. the white house will brief lawmakers about drones. the administration will release classified documents about the legal justifition for using drone strikes to kill american citizens. >> this is an encouraging first step, a